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I'm still running OSX 10.4 (Tiger) so it looks like I'll give  the &lt;a href=&quot;http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/glass-a-seaside-appliance/&quot;&gt;GLASS Virtual Appliance&lt;/a&gt; under &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/&quot;&gt;VMware Fusion&lt;/a&gt; a try.</description><guid>73bd0d16-33d8-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:54:23 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>73bd0d16-33d8-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>anonymous</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>yy2Jo3  &lt;a href=&quot;http://kxlbunqcqzsl.com/&quot;&gt;kxlbunqcqzsl&lt;/a&gt;, [url=http://jjehbcqlvvyy.com/]jjehbcqlvvyy[/url], [link=http://daefislrjgkg.com/]daefislrjgkg[/link], http://dgbazmbafsti.com/</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:55:37 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Finished 'An Introduction to Seaside' </title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/4a95e80c-270a-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</link><description>&lt;a href=http://www.lulu.com/content/2234565&gt;An Introduction to Seaside&lt;/a&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[1]&lt;/sup&gt; does exactly what is says in the title. It walks the reader through building a &quot;To Do Application&quot; and by doing so covers an amazing amount of ground in just 138 &lt;sup&gt;[2]&lt;/sup&gt; pages, including more advanced topics such as database options, AJAX and the meta-framework Magritte. As such I would recommend it to anyone wanting a book providing a good detailed overview of what a Seaside application looks like.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;img src=&quot;http://inextenso.s3.amazonaws.com/seaside/seaside-book.jpg&quot;&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;[1] An online version of the book exists &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/seaside/tutorial&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&#13;&#10;&lt;br&gt;[2] Excluding the Appendix. The printed book's length is 200 pages. </description><guid>4a95e80c-270a-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 09:48:24 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>4a95e80c-270a-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>Alejandro</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>Really recommended..., I already finished it and did some programming..., but,  when will the &quot;Complete Seaside Reference Book&quot; written or available???&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;The main index would be almost the same..., but every theme extended.., plus, XUL integration, &quot;using another AJAX library&quot;, &quot;Seaside code generation&quot; (for automatic rendering of objects), &quot;advanced transaction handling&quot;,.. etc....&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Regards..</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:43:01 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Seaside book ordered</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/f90e793d-0fb0-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</link><description>I &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.squeak.org/2008/04/21/an-introduction-to-seaside-now-published/&quot;&gt;just saw&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;em&gt;An Introduction to Seaside&lt;/em&gt; has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lulu.com/content/2234565&quot;&gt;published on Lulu&lt;/a&gt; and couldn't resist placing an order.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;I took the economy shipping option (to make an order of $34.78) so the book should arrive within a month (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lulu.com/en/help/shipping_faq&quot;&gt;5 days to be printed plus 5 to 20 to be shipped to Europe&lt;/a&gt;).&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;I'll report back here on the actual shipping time and my thoughts on the book itself.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;b&gt;Update:&lt;/b&gt; The book, shipped from Spain via UPS, arrived here in Switzerland today, April 30th . 9 days total, not bad.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://inextenso.s3.amazonaws.com/seaside/lulu-seaside-order.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://inextenso.s3.amazonaws.com/seaside/lulu-seaside-order-small.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><guid>f90e793d-0fb0-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:41:05 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>f90e793d-0fb0-11dd-b581-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>anonymous</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>3gejbM  &lt;a href=&quot;http://iuubchxwsjkn.com/&quot;&gt;iuubchxwsjkn&lt;/a&gt;, [url=http://zikgxpszruao.com/]zikgxpszruao[/url], [link=http://xhgldnihkyhz.com/]xhgldnihkyhz[/link], http://cmmknoydbajt.com/</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:00:15 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Seaside on Amazon EC2</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/4a79a0de-b556-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</link><description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ec2-67-202-37-186.compute-1.amazonaws.com/seaside&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is cool, the Seaside One-click Experience image running on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://aws.amazon.com/ec2&quot;&gt;EC2&lt;/a&gt; (Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud) node, as announced &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/Seaside-on-AWS-to14508127.html&#13;&#10;&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ec2-67-202-37-186.compute-1.amazonaws.com/seaside&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/inextenso/blogs/seaside-ec2-small.png&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><guid>4a79a0de-b556-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:05:13 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>4a79a0de-b556-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>anonymous</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>PjOJWl &lt;a href=&quot;http://evlghtpwwoll.com/&quot;&gt;evlghtpwwoll&lt;/a&gt;, [url=http://qtsojtumxdwr.com/]qtsojtumxdwr[/url], [link=http://xjzebbgkicyg.com/]xjzebbgkicyg[/link], http://ypmsuhypminx.com/</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:01:33 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Easy sessions or easy bookmarking, choose one</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/4dbb86fc-a5c6-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</link><description>Randal L. Schwartz nicely &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/URL-problems-tf4967397.html#a14231594&quot;&gt;sums up&lt;/a&gt; a key difference between Seaside and traditional web frameworks:&#13;&#10;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#13;&#10;In traditional web programming, the default is &quot;sessions are hard, &#13;&#10;bookmarks are easy&quot;.  In Seaside, the default is &quot;sessions are easy, &#13;&#10;bookmarks are hard&quot;.  You can't get both at the same time. &#13;&#10;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;i&gt;Non-automatic&lt;/i&gt; bookmarking, rather than hard bookmarking, might be closer to the truth, at least from a developer's point of view. And as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nabble.com/URL-problems-tf4967397.html#a14230238&quot;&gt;Lukas Renggli says&lt;/a&gt;, with Gemstone &quot;infinite memory&quot; you can just keep your sessions for ever and never have expired URLs.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: there's an interesting discussion on handling expired seaside sessions &lt;a href=&quot;http://kentreis.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/meaningful-seaside-links-after-session-expiry/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on Ken Treis's blog.</description><guid>4dbb86fc-a5c6-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:46:44 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>4dbb86fc-a5c6-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>Randal L. Schwartz</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>Thanks for referencing that posting!</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:42:38 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>4dbb86fc-a5c6-11dc-bb6c-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>Ian Prince</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>No problem Randal,  it's great to see you're interested in Seaside. That post and its thread is a great summary of how Seaside trades in automatic bookmaking for not having to deal with the session-less nature of HTTP.</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:21:35 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Excellent Seaside tutorial from Hasso-Plattner-Institut</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/f6db33f8-8093-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</link><description>The Software Architecture Group at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/&quot;&gt;Hasso-Plattner-Institut&lt;/a&gt; in Germany has an &lt;b&gt;excellent step-by-step&lt;/b&gt; online Seaside tutorial in English &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/seaside/tutorial&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/seaside/tutorial&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://s3.amazonaws.com/inextenso/swa-seaside-tutorial-small.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><guid>f6db33f8-8093-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:43:10 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>f6db33f8-8093-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>James</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>Hello.  I'm going through this tutorial.  It's pretty good, but some chapeters are getting hard to follow (Chapter 4,5).  There are a few errors in the code you have listed.  I'd list them, but it's late now..I'm tired.  &#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Thanks for the tutorial.  I hope to finish it in a few more days.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Peace</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:32:01 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Free Software</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/c825b6f3-1dd7-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</link><description>I couldn't pass on the opportunity to see and hear &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman&quot;&gt;Richard Stallman&lt;/a&gt; talk at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unil.ch/&quot;&gt;University of Lausanne&lt;/a&gt; this morning.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;Stallmann's talk &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hec.unil.ch/aim2007/program/KeynoteTalk_rms&quot;&gt;Éthique et pratique du logiciel libre&lt;/a&gt; – given in excellent French – revolved around the four freedoms of &quot;Free Software&quot;:&#13;&#10;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The freedom to run the program, for any purpose;&#13;&#10;&lt;li&gt;The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs;&#13;&#10;&lt;li&gt;The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor;&#13;&#10;&lt;li&gt;The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits.&#13;&#10;&lt;/ul&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;Seaside is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seaside.st/License/&quot;&gt;distributed&lt;/a&gt; under the &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; generous BSD-style &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License&quot;&gt;MIT License&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks Avi! See &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/articles/99/06/23/1313224.shtml&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for a &lt;em&gt;long&lt;/em&gt; discussion on GPL vs BSD.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;Stallman briefly talked about e-voting which he doesn't consider secure enough today, nor in the foreseeable future (40 years). The video below (mp4, 2197k) is Stallman receiving applause for saying &quot;il faut voter en papier&quot;, i.e. voting should be paper-based. &#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;And Yves, if you're reading this, thanks for inviting me to lunch!&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/inextenso/blogs/stallman.mp4&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/inextenso/blogs/stallman.png&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#13;&#10;</description><guid>c825b6f3-1dd7-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:09:12 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>c825b6f3-1dd7-11dc-9f36-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>ejlkikra</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>[URL=http://vfppkwef.com]rjifqgzx[/URL]  rvpdubqh http://gbmfuoqr.com lmbvfkdc eqpbsjfq  &lt;a href=&quot;http://divglbpv.com&quot;&gt;xrevrcsp&lt;/a&gt; </includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:35:58 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Transparent Persistence</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/7e938cb2-fd37-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</link><description>Dale Henrichs &lt;a href=&quot;http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/transparent-persistence-for-seaside/&quot;&gt;explains&lt;/a&gt; how GemStone persistence is transparent in Seaside:&#13;&#10;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#13;&#10;a beginTransaction is performed when the request comes in from the http server and a commitTransaction is performed right before the response is shipped back out to the http server.&#13;&#10;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#13;&#10;This seems to mirror the way &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.python.org/workshops/2000-01/proceedings/papers/fulton/zodb3.html&quot;&gt;ZODB&lt;/a&gt; transactions are handled in Zope. &#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;Data transparency makes a &lt;b&gt;big&lt;/b&gt; difference to rapid web prototyping, and I'm glad it has made its way into Seaside.</description><guid>7e938cb2-fd37-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:41:12 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>7e938cb2-fd37-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>pbaidiwz</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>nrexoznj http://ftvzywyu.com fhtmnzdg ugwgwdxw  [URL=http://dguxluhx.com]iniucjyu[/URL]  &lt;a href=&quot;http://eceftfxa.com&quot;&gt;fkdivinj&lt;/a&gt; </includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:43:52 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Gemstone and Seaside</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/36d29fda-f8b4-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</link><description>Well it looks like the wait for a bullet-proof and powerful object-oriented database back-end for Seaside is over, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gemstone.com/products/smalltalk/&quot;&gt;Gemstone/S Object Server&lt;/a&gt; for Seaside – &lt;a href=&quot;http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/extra-gemstone-goes-seaside/&quot;&gt;as pre-announced in November&lt;/a&gt; - is being &lt;a href=&quot;http://seaside.gemstone.com&quot;&gt;shown today&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smalltalksolutions.com/&quot;&gt;Smalltalk Solutions&lt;/a&gt; 2007 in Toronto.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;This is &lt;b&gt;great&lt;/b&gt; news. Now if only I can get a Beta invitation....&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update:&lt;/b&gt; Have an invite (thanks Monty!). &#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Update:&lt;/b&gt; Dale Henrichs has a blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;(gem)Stone Soup&lt;/a&gt; covering &lt;i&gt;tips and techniques for using GemStone/S and Seaside&lt;/i&gt;.&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/inextenso/blogs/gemstone.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/inextenso/blogs/gemstone-small.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description><guid>36d29fda-f8b4-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:51:23 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>36d29fda-f8b4-11db-b6f8-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>Monty</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>I have a larger number of people to get back to next week about the Beta program than I expected.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;While a lot of the port is usable by long time GemStone/S users, it still needs a bit of work to make the experience a positive one for Squeak users. Once we get the Browser/Debugger/Inspector and Monticello tools mostly operational, we'll begin the Beta program.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;-- Monty</includedComments:content><includedComments:pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 01:34:34 GMT</includedComments:pubDate></includedComments:comment></includedComments:comment-collection></item><item><title>Smalltalk in Flash</title><link>http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-000d935fad1c</link><description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://vistascript.net/vistascript/docuwiki/doku.php&quot;&gt;Vista Smalltalk Flash&lt;/a&gt; is an implementation of Smalltalk in Flash, which means it will run within your browser.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inextenso.com/misc/blogs/vista-smalltalk.png&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.inextenso.com/misc/blogs/vista-smalltalk-small.png&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&#13;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&#13;&#10;via &lt;a href=&quot;http://lemonodor.com/archives/001486.html&quot;&gt;lemonodor&lt;/a&gt;</description><guid>795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-000d935fad1c</guid><pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:40:52 GMT</pubDate><includedComments:comment-collection><includedComments:comment><includedComments:puid>795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-000d935fad1c</includedComments:puid><includedComments:author>anonymous</includedComments:author><includedComments:content>[URL=http://www.palhlavolo.org/tags] tags [/URL]   &lt;a href='http://www.palhlavolo.org/tags'&gt; 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